Wednesday, January 20, 2010

Isnt hunting just as bad as dogfighting?

Forget Micheal Vick, why isnt PETA getting on these hunters for killing our deer. I mean dont they worry about our precious deers being extinct? Why get on Micheal Vick and not on hunters?Isnt hunting just as bad as dogfighting?
Why are you defending Michael Vick by attacking hunters?





That guy is a dumb, violent, brutish thug that was raised in a culture that's dumb, violent and brutish.





It's funny how all the other Ghetto-dwelling Social Parasites like you come out of the woodwork to defend him by saying...';Forget Michael Vick...'; when that's all this is about.Isnt hunting just as bad as dogfighting?
Why is it only black people are asking this question? I am not racist, but you are the fourth one to make this lame attempt.





Obviously your knowledge of hunting is only exceeding by your lack of knowledge for dog fighting, which is then exceeded by your inability to present a stable, thought provoking, concept.





Peta kills more animals than anyone!





See how easy that was. In fact it is not accurate at all. peta has a 12 million annual budget. Less than 1% actually goes to support animals. And most of that 1% is for euthanization!





Please, go ahead and sick your little peta buddies on us poor defenseless hunters. We have no capacity to defend ourselves against such an onslaught as what they would give us.....%26lt;smirk%26gt;





Where did you get your education? DeVry?
You pose a valid question. However, you are either uninformed or misinformed.





PETA and other animal rights groups have been after the hunting establishment for years. I took a look at PETA's website and it took me about 5 seconds to find their fact sheet on why hunting is bad:





http://www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display鈥?/a>





The question is what differentiates what Vick did versus Joe Nobody with this 12 gauge?





The answer is pain and humanity.





Hunters screw up. That is inevitable. There are animals that are going to be wounded and be in pain. However, a vast majority of game animals I have hunted and seen shot die a quick death.





Vicks dog fighting ring promotes the slow torturous death of some fine animals. Pit Bulls are a great breed (I trust my life and my kids life with my pit bull mix without a seconds hesitation). The animals are not subjected to a quick shock, a short, intense amount of pain, and a quick death. They are subjected to a slow painful death in most instances.





Lets look at this in human terms. If you had to die, which method would you prefer:





1. To be shot through the heart and lungs by a high powered rifle?





2. To be killed by another human who is not allowed to use anything but their teeth while to struggle to get away





While I do not wish to get into the merits of hunting and if it is right or wrong, I do think it is plain to see that hunting is a much, much lesser evil than dog fighting.
i hate PETA and i hate people that fight dogs and PETA dose complain about hunting
If what you're hunting is gonna be food or clothing, no. If you're hunting for entertainment just to do it, I'd say an argument can be made.
Where do you live? Here in Montana there is NO chance of the deer becoming extinct, they are so over populated here that even after we kill thousands of them during hunting season and hundreds are run over by vehicles, many of them still starve to death in the winter because there is not enough food to feed them all.





PS I hunt for food not sport
you are an idiot. Deer are shot, and die. Dogs are tortured, beaten, drown, starved, and even burned. Hunting isnt cruel, dogfighting is. Let me know when hunters start burning deer then ill agree with you
Don't instigate! If the PETA is busy hounding something else, take advantage of it and don't bring the attention back on us....duh.
Hunters aren't electrocuting or hanging the animals.
no
what kind of retarded liberal logic is this?
1) dogfighting is for entertainment, when we hunt we use the animal for food


2) dogfighting is cruel and vicious and a slow and painful death for dogs, when a deer is shot it usually dies right away or within a minute.


3) There is what we call a bag limit for deer, so they are not hunt to extinction


4) I don't even think it would be possible to hunt deers to extinction.


5) When hunters do hunt illegally, there are massive fines.


6) Killing a deer with a gun is probably more humane than what goes on in the slaughter houses for cows


7) Man has been hunting ever since man has existed. Less painful for the animal now than a few centuries ago.
dog fighting=torturing animals for the sake of making money


hunting=harvesting game for food consumption while strengthening the rest of the herd population


not being able to see the difference=incredibly stupid and/or brainwashed by PETA





Killing animals farther down the food chain is a completely natural process.. remember that idea called ';survival of the fittest';? Why would humans not qualifty to participate? We have to eat just like all other animals.
First deer just like dogs are not even remotely close to extinction. Second I have never hunted in my life so I don't have an agenda with my answer. Dog fighting in this sense is a form of gambling, people are winning and losing money just as the dogs are winning or losing their lives. The dogs are killing each other for the entertainment value so that money can be made. Hunters I'm pretty sure don't gather in masses and cheer as the Hunter shoots a deer then exchange money back and forth. Hunters hunt because that is what humans do instinctively that is natural. what isn't natural is watching dog after dog maul each other for entertainment. I'm my opinion hunting is no where near on the same level as dog fighting. oh and Peta advocates terrorism on behalf of animals so maybe do your homework before you ally yourself with them.
deer/bear and the animals that the gov lat hunters hunt r eatin dogs r pets and r not eatin so get out of the hunting qasutions
our precious deer our causing unnecessary deaths in vehicles and damaging our crops when we as farmers can hardly make a living.our precious deer provide us with much needed meat.our precious deer are eating our gardens so our canning is low and shelfs are not stocked for the winter while dog fighting is inhumane and stomach renching
When I see you and Vick eating dog steaks from dogs you killed to eat I'll say maybe hunting is a little like dog fighting except us hunters have the guts to go into the woods with all the wild animals and bring something to eat back, while people who arrainge dog fights are cowards who get off on putting dogs in pits where they tear each other up while the cowards sit protected and up where the dogs can't bite them.


Go hunting where the bears and mountain lions can kill you if you make a mistake. Walk around alone in thick woods wondering which tree a predator 5 times the size of a pit bull might jump out of to bite your head off before you can even point your gun. Then if you are man enough to stay out there all day and make it back alive tell me how it's just like watching a dog fight while you sit in a row of seats protected from the dogs.


Cowards watch dog fights. Real men hunt and feed their families with meat they bring home. Go eat dog steak and pretend you are a man, but don't make another dog kill the dog for you.
Another question asked by an uninformed big city nitwit.
Earth calling planet Zod............ Hunting is either done for the pot or sport.


Dog fighting has no place in modern society and cannot be compared to a legal sport.
read more books
peta is trying to get hunting banned. if ignorance is bliss you must be a very, very, very happy person.
You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. PETA has for several years been attacking hunters and our traditions. Plus, Vick broke the law. Hunters that break the law are called POACHERS! Poachers are looked down on and shamed by real hunters more than by the gerneral public. Deer (not deers, learn to talk) will not go extinct from hunting. In fact, because of hunters and the hunters caring for the wildlife, deer and all the other animals we hunt, are flourishing. Read up on some true facts.
Really none of us should have answered this question as all he was trying to do is get us all up in a tissy and get us to pay attention to him because he is insecure about himself somehow.
I cant believe people like you can even get out of bed and dress yourself without help!!!!! We deer hunt for food and population control. If there were no hunters, deer would starve to death and even more would die because of lack of food. There is no way in the world we will ever kill all the deer, you dont have to worry about them going extinct unless they outlaw hunting, then they will all die from lack of food.The people that hunt deer just to get the rack and leave it lay to rot are a disgrace to us actual hunters. Dogs arent food, and they arent overpopulated, are house pets!!!! How can not understand deer arent pets, they are wild animals that need to be controlled. Deer are killed humanly and dont suffer any pain. I dont see why anyone is against it because deer arent cute little animals you can pet in the wild. If you corner one it wont hestitate to run your @ss in the ground to get away. Bucks will do the opposite. they will stab you with the antlers and toss you over them.





Now do you see why dogfighting is nothing like hunting and hunting isnt bad.
ok for the people that kill deer just for sport or just to kill then yes it is just as bad but for goodhunters like me who eat what ever we kill then no because we kill for a reason for food
The issue is TORTURE. These dogs are trained to rip out each others throats. A bullet is a clean kill.





Dog fighters are often involved in the sale and possession of drugs, as well as illegal weapons. The weapons are present due to the large amount of cash present for betting upon the matches. 鈥―og fighters and spectators have a history of violent and criminal behavior towards people. 鈥―og fighting is another entertainment activity for gangs. 鈥↖t is not uncommon for dog fighters or spectators to involve their children in dog fighting. Research shows that young children who view this type of violence have a greater acceptance of aggressive attitudes and behavior. These children are taught to believe that it's ok to inflict the cruelties they observe and that dog fighting is an acceptable practice. 鈥═he dogs that are used for fighting have been selectively bred for animal aggression. Their presence in the community increases the risk of attacks on other animals and also people.


Unfortunately they train them on small dogs and cats to fight. Many times they steal them out of yards when people leave their pets out unattended all day. They end up as Pit Bull bait dogs. Also ';free-to-good-home'; animals can also end up for bait dogs. They'll tape the bait dog's mouth shut and just let the Pit kill them.





It's a psychological fact that If you abuse animals, you are prone abuse your wife and kids too, as well as take a humans life.
Only an atagonist and an uninformed ';baiter'; would post such a question on purpose in the Hunting section of a forum like Yahoo Answers.Micheal Vick is a greedy, self-serving,self-rightous individual whose greed far exceeds his own human values or morality. He would be in the mess he is in regardless of his race. He got caught, and he's going to pay the price that any other person would, had they commited the same criminal act.





Maybe you should focus on Vick as the ';failed'; role model to hundreds youngsters that he in fact now is..instead of making these ridiculous and totally biased , and baseless comparisons.





How would you like it if we as Hunters condemed you for being gay? You don't seem to have a problem with that.Judge not lest ye be judged.........
Deer is not an endangered species, and hunting laws are strictly controlled...you can only shoot them at certain times during the year, there's a limit on how many you can kill in a day, and you can only do it in designated hunting areas. Also, you are only allowed to shoot the bucks (males) and not the does. If you violate any of these laws, you are heavily fined and could even go to jail.





Also, hunted deer is actually USED to provide sustenance for people, and the skin can also be used to make rugs or sleeping bags, etc.





With the dogs, there is no useful purpose served from making them fight, other than to satisfy the sick urges of people who enjoy that type of stuff.
1st, come up with your own ideas and stop stealing them from wanna-b gang-banging NBA wash-ups.





2nd, don't even try to spin the heat off of the ';poor oppressed victim.';





3rd, everyone complains about the dolphins getting caught in Tuna nets, but what about the poor Tuna that get caught in the Tuna nets? Society just ain't fair. Tunas... more of a victim than shall we say... Vick... or should we use a broader term??
you need to read on. hunting is a good thing not like dog fighting. your happy when your dog win and sad when losing. hunting you kill and eat. dog fighting you can't. back in laos after dog fighting, if the dog is hurt enough the people will kill it and eat it. here in america they can't. think twice about hunting deer before you speak.
Valid point, but not every one that hunts does it purely for sport, and doesn't wager thousands of dollars in money showers on the outcome. I used to bow hunt and used the deer meat and skin. Many state wildlife agencies issue hunting permits based on deer population and weather predictions, so the deer population doesn't starve itself due to lack of food in the wild. Owned dogs aren't in danger of starving, unless the owner abuses it.

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